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The Forgotten Tudor Women: Margaret Douglas, Mary Howard & Mary Shelton

The Forgotten Tudor Women Margaret Douglas Mary Howard Mary Shelton Everyone knows that Henry VIII had six wives two sisters and two daughters All of these women received attention in academic circles and are the subjects of countless biographies Not many people how

  • Title: The Forgotten Tudor Women: Margaret Douglas, Mary Howard & Mary Shelton
  • Author: Sylvia Barbara Soberton
  • ISBN: null
  • Page: 351
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  • Everyone knows that Henry VIII had six wives, two sisters and two daughters All of these women received attention in academic circles and are the subjects of countless biographies Not many people, however, realize that Henry VIII also had a niece, a daughter in law and a mistress, who were close friends, but who today remain on the fringes of history Margaret Douglas wEveryone knows that Henry VIII had six wives, two sisters and two daughters All of these women received attention in academic circles and are the subjects of countless biographies Not many people, however, realize that Henry VIII also had a niece, a daughter in law and a mistress, who were close friends, but who today remain on the fringes of history Margaret Douglas was the daughter of Henry VIII s elder sister Margaret, Queen of Scotland She was imprisoned thrice, and each time, as she admitted, not for matters of treason, but for love matters Her legacy includes marrying her son to Mary, Queen of Scots, and playing the doting grandmother to King James VI and I Mary Howard was the daughter of Thomas Howard, third Duke of Norfolk, leading peer of the Tudor court She served as maid of honour to her first cousin, Anne Boleyn, and married Henry VIII s illegitimate but acknowledged son, Henry Fitzroy, Duke of Richmond Widowed at the age of seventeen, Mary fought for her rightful jointure and was, by her father s admission, too wise for a woman Mary Shelton, like Mary Howard, was related to Anne Boleyn and became her servant at court Beautiful and skilled in poetry, Mary attracted Henry VIII s attention and became his mistress in 1535, but many don t realize how important her contributions were to the literary scene of the time This book moves Margaret Douglas, Mary Howard and Mary Shelton from the footnotes of history into the spotlight, where they deserve to shine along with their famous contemporaries.

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    1. Holy Cow I am so glad I wasn't a Tudor. People got chucked in the tower and beheaded for allowing their kids to get married without the crown's permission. Am a fully convinced that from Henry VIII on they were loony. This tells the stories of 3 women of the Tudor court who managed to die of natural causes.Vocabdisport - enjoy oneself unrestrainedly; frolicnaissance - the birth or origination of something or somebodychrisom - a white robe put on a child at baptismdicaments - a substance used for [...]

    2. "Mary Howard's presence was not recorded either at the christening of the prince or at the Queen's funeral" - and that's probably because, as much as the author would like Howard to be constantly at the centre of the Tudor court, much of the time she simply wasn't, and this serves as an example of the negative information that fills out some of this book: the places where these women are not. Overall, this is a brisk and fairly superficial romp through the lives of Mary Howard, Mary Shelton and [...]

    3. Très intéressant. Un livre qui démontre bien des ramifications entre certains événements beaucoup de consanguinité lol Bon choix les filles

    4. Sylvia Barbara Soberton has written an interesting history about three women who graced the Tudor court and very often get lost in the shuffle. Margaret Douglas, Henry's niece is the product of her mother's marriage to a Scottish lord and the ancestor to today's ruling family. Margaret, Henry's sister is married off to the Scot's King when she was barely a woman and is shipped off to cement a northern alliance for the Tudor family. When her husband dies, she makes an illegal marriage to one of h [...]

    5. Bravo, Bravo !!! Well researched information on the Tudor Women, their family lineages, and how they fit into history. Some rather dry historical facts, nicely woven into an easy to read, entertaining book. I quite enjoyed this.

    6. I read the print, not the Kindle edition. This is pretty well done, all taken into consideration. It seems to have been self-published, and may well be a dissertation worked up into book format. There were some misspellings and typos, but nothing too disastrous. The flow of the narrative is relatively clear, and the research done on her topics is thorough. This gives additional background to those that are interested in this time period, and each of the three "forgotten women" comes through as a [...]

    7. A bit pushed towards the end but goodThis was a great alternative to the usual historical reflections - well written, taking in many points of view and without the 'one-upmanship' that many books of this type seem to end up being. My only criticism, and this may well be downfall rather than the author's, is that by the end I was finding it difficult to keep track of 'who was who' through the generations. Still liked it though and well worth a go.

    8. 3.5 stars rounded up to 4. I enjoyed a lot of it and the rest was fine. It did not flow really well Mary Howard's part of it really got down in the weeds; my feeling is that could have been shortened, especially all the places she was not or did not do something.I do enjoy Soberton's work but Great Ladies was a more enjoyable read.

    9. Hard to followI would recommend this book to academia s, scholars and researchers. It s hard to differentiate between the three Mary's, hard to identify why they are unique from one another. Their lives seem to be reflective of the time in which they lived.

    10. It's always interesting to hear about the people history 'forgot'; these three women are influential and important but not often discussed. However, this book doesn't really seem to focus much on them - particularly in the case of Mary Howard it seemed more focused on how closely related to Anne Boleyn she was. I felt Shelton's story was very quickly skimmed over, while Margaret's again was more about her descendants than her own life.It's a good book for an overview, but it's not very in-depth. [...]

    11. A good readEverything I knew and thought I knew was here but very interesting especially if you like reading about English royal family

    12. Forgotten Tudor WomenAn excellent read from Sylvia Soberton. I thought it would be difficult to read with all the Mary's and Margaret's but it was not the case with this book.

    13. A good book. A new angle on a much written about period that continues to fascinate us. And each tiny bit new detail helps to build a picture of the whole. Like everyone else and certainly like everyone who wants to read this book I was fairly up on the Tudors but I can get confused easily. I found it helpful to draw up a family tree for two of these women, Margaret Douglas and Mary Howard and I referred to it throughout. The third subject of the book was Mary Shelton, mistress of Henry V111 and [...]

    14. This is a very academic work with a great deal of information on these three remarkable women. It is not light reading, being filled with a huge amount of historic analysis and data. What is extraordinary about these women is their strength of character at an age when men (and especially women) were mere pawns in the King's game. How anybody in close contact with the King survived at that time required a great deal of guile and resilience. The author clearly has an enormous respect for these wom [...]

    15. I gave The Forgotten Tudor Women two stars because I really did feel it was "just OK". It read like a senior thesis or dissertation; the book was mostly long quotes from letters with little commentary or analysis. I was most disappointed in that the biographies were brief and very superficial. Both Marys shouldn't have been included - so little is known about Mary Shelton that she barely figures in the book at all, and most of Mary Howard's story was overshadowed by her mother and brother. While [...]

    16. I enjoy histories of women, particularly those that are not as prominent. I was especially interested in Mary Shelton, having researched the Shelton of Norfolk family extensively. This was well written, using solid sources and good footnotes. There was a comment that Mary and not her sister Margaret was the mistress of Henry VIII, the latter being the commonly noted Shelton in most histories. She said recent research says it was Mary but other than indicating that Mary was noted at court in this [...]

    17. This is a well written, quick read about three very important and fascinating women. The book's description should be taken into account, as the author seems to assume that her readers do actually already know a lot about the Tudors. Be warned that if you are not already well versed in the history of this time, the significance of certain people and encounters will be lost on you, as the author provides little detail to fill the reader in. The more knowledgable you are on the era, the more you'l [...]

    18. I enjoyed this glimpse into the intertwining lives of these three ladies of court. The author doesn't have a great deal of material to work with as the historical records are scant on detail. All three ladies were contributors of The Devonshire Manuscript. Still I agree with her summation that these lives are "deserving of remembrance." This book has stimulated my interest in further Tudor reading. I recommend this book for anyone who enjoys reading and learning more about the nobility of the Tu [...]

    19. When I purchased this book, I thought it was historical fiction. It isn't. So I set myself up for disappointment. What I wound up with is a very well-researched non-fiction book about three lesser known Tudor women (Margaret Douglas - daughter of Henry VIII's sister Margaret, Mary Howard - daughter of the Duke of Norfolk, and Mary Shelton - first cousin of Queen Anne Boleyn on her father's side). Though I've read a lot about this period, I did learn new information. But the entire time, I felt l [...]

    20. For the Tudor fanThis well researched and written book is for those well acquainted with the events of the times as the author takes it as read with only glancing address to the major figures of Tudor England. For those who are well versed in this period this in-depth review of the often overlooked daughters and wives of history brings new life to history.

    21. While I think Margaret Douglas has more information given about her due to her numerous royal relations, it was good to see a decent account of the lives of Mary Howard and Mary Shelton. Soberton gives details of the lives they were born into, times at court, and traces, as well as history provides, into their lives after they left court.

    22. This is a good book for learning about these three Tudor women and the history attached to them. It is well written and easy to read, I think it would be especially helpful for students studying Henry V111's reign and the difficulties for women during that period.

    23. The Forgotten WomenThis was a good read. I find books like this to be treasures, they are about the people that are forgotten in history, yet were a big part of it!

    24. More history than novel.More history than novel.I can't come up with sixteen more words to say about this book but i guess I'll have to keep writing anyway.

    25. Great read. Great read. Flew through this book. Left me wanting to read more about these women. Wish there were some photographs of mentioned jewels and estates.

    26. A Great ReadDownloaded and read in one sitting. An excellent, balanced and compelling look at three Tudor women who do not get the attention the deserve.

    27. Interesting and informativeEasy to read and interesting content. Easy to confuse all the Mary's and Margaret's, but that happens in most bibliographic books

    28. A Thesis Disguised as a BookThinner than a book, to large to be a pamphlet. A very disappointing, albeit quick, read. Would not recommend it.

    29. I've expected more from this book. Pretty chaotic, more like story telling than a reliable historic source. Without having a prior historical knowledge you would quickly get lost in numerous names.

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