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Ladivine Longlisted for the Man Booker International Prize Clarisse Rivi re s life is shaped by a refusal to admit to her husband Richard and to her daughter Ladivine that her mother is a poor black house

  • Title: Ladivine
  • Author: Marie NDiaye Jordan Stump
  • ISBN: null
  • Page: 308
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  • Longlisted for the Man Booker International Prize 2016 Clarisse Rivi re s life is shaped by a refusal to admit to her husband Richard and to her daughter Ladivine that her mother is a poor black housekeeper Instead, weighed down by guilt, she pretends to be an orphan, visiting her mother in secret and telling no one of her real identity as Malinka, daughter of LadivineLonglisted for the Man Booker International Prize 2016Clarisse Rivi re s life is shaped by a refusal to admit to her husband Richard and to her daughter Ladivine that her mother is a poor black housekeeper Instead, weighed down by guilt, she pretends to be an orphan, visiting her mother in secret and telling no one of her real identity as Malinka, daughter of Ladivine Sylla In time, her lies turn against her Richard leaves Clarisse, frustrated by the unbridgeable, indecipherable gulf between them Clarisse is devastated, but finds solace in a new man, Freddy Moliger, who is let into the secret about her mother, and is even introduced to her But Ladivine, her daughter, who is now married herself, cannot shake a bad feeling about her mother s new lover, convinced that he can bring only chaos and pain into her life When she is proved right, in the most tragic circumstances, the only comfort the family can turn to requires a leap of faith beyond any they could have imagined.Centred around three generations of women, whose seemingly cursed lineage is defined by the weight of origins, the pain of alienation and the legacy of shame, Ladivine is a beguiling story of secrets, lies, guilt and forgiveness by one of Europe s most unique literary voices.

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    1. NAM MYŌHŌ RENGE KYŌ L’inizio è bello, molto.Quasi tutta la prima parte è bella. È potente. Si tratta di un po’ meno di un terzo del libro.Dakar, Senegal.La storia di una bambina che cresce, si vergogna della madre povera e nera, un’africana emigrata in Francia che si è lasciata mettere incinta da un bianco che sparisce quasi prima d’essere comparso. La bambina diventa una donna, è nata più bianca che nera, ha la pelle chiara, ma se la schiarisce ulteriormente col trucco per nasc [...]

    2. This novel gets to the heart of the human condition. I feel scoured out by it. I feel like my head was held tight until I was forced to look at the sadness of being alive. The meanings in this novel are not entirely rational and yet the bedrock truth of the story felt so familiar. It was like reading about some tragic, true event.The characters are worthy of love, and yet they are each so alone and so unloved, and so confused in their isolation, and so unknowable even to themselves. They pity ea [...]

    3. So sorry, I couldn't even finish this one before putting it down, which is extremely extremely rare for me!, because the word that kept popping into my head was overwrought, Overwrought, OVERWROUGHT! It seemed like NDiaye was trying way too hard to be deep or profound, and I just couldn't get into her writing style. It seemedlodramatic, but not in a way that I could appreciate. Just couldn't do it, so, sadly, this will be the first novel EVER to make it onto my "Could Not Even Finish" shelf. But [...]

    4. This is a haunting and somewhat, elusive, nightmarish and enigmatic story which explores the inner worlds of three generations of women in the same family and the secrets that prevent them communicating properly with one another. Like NDiaye's previous novel Three Strong Women it has extended sections that focus on different characters, but this time they are all more closely related.The first section centres on Clarisse Riviere, who has chosen a new identity to distance herself from her past as [...]

    5. Wow. I wasn’t expecting this. What a stifling, devastating experience this was. Ladivine is a highly emotional and intense novel where each page is weighed down with the unrelenting guilt of the characters. Early on it seemed like it might be about mother-daughter shame and guilt, class, race, unhealthy relationships and feeling lost in the world, and it is all that, but so much more. I’m afraid this review is rather futile because I don’t know how to classify this novel or even how to exp [...]

    6. A Bitter Bread"Had she not made of the servant's life a bitter bread?"A more or less random line from the first part of Marie NDiaye's new novel. I quote it for two reasons. One is that the translation by Jordan Stump never quite settles into idiomatic English; one is always aware of a kind of ghost French behind it, as in the inverted word order and strange idiom here. He has informed me, however, in a comment on my review (see spoiler below) that this is an accurate representation of NDiaye's [...]

    7. Ladivine is centered around four women: There's Malinka and Clarisse, and then there's Malinka's mother and Clarisse's daughter, both of whom happen to be named Ladivine.Clarisse doesn't remember much about Malinka's childhood. She remembers that she lived in a small (but always impeccably clean) flat in some Paris suburb; one room for her, and one for her mother. She remembers that Malinka's mother wasn't like other mothers; her skin colour, her job (cleaning other people's homes), her never-fa [...]

    8. I really, really wanted to like this book. It has an interesting premise, and on top of that you realize pretty early on that there's a whole other layer to the story that's not mentioned in the blurb. And that extra layer of context really intrigued me and made me want to keep reading. But the writing was not accessible at all. It was the kind of writing that keeps you so far removed from the story, from simple actions or moments that ground you in the setting, that I could read whole pages and [...]

    9. ARC reviewDeserves 4 stars for artistic merit - but I no longer want to give 4 stars to these books that are very well done, with which I didn't have that much fun, or which didn't otherwise dazzle me. I'd been putting off reading Ladivine for the best part of a year, my trepidation about this book - which, going by the initial blurb (I suspect composed by someone who had only read the beginning) as well as the opening pages, seemed to be about a difficult mother-daughter relationship, I expecte [...]

    10. Marie NDiaye's second translated novel is not as raw as Three Strong Women but is equally powerful and disturbing.Malinka is the daughter of a Black African immigrant, Ladivine. Her mother is poor, she works as a cleaning woman and gives her entire life and self in service to her daughter. Malinka is so fair she can pass as white and she feels deeply ashamed of Ladivine. In fact she calls her "the servant."After leaving home, she changes her name to Clarisse, falls in love with a white French ma [...]

    11. A genuine 4.5 star review because I give 4 stars to the first half and 5 stars to the second half. In the first half, we get a "normal" book that tells the story of Ladivine and her daughter Malinka. And the story of Clarisse who has a daughter also called Ladivine. So far, so good. People struggle with deceptions they have chosen to live with and relationships are stretched.But then the second half of the book happens. There's a revelation (no spoilers here) that is given to the reader in the m [...]

    12. Ladivine, written by the Senegalese-French writer Marie NDiaye, known for her 2009 Prix Goncourt award-winning Trois Femmes Puissantes (Three Strong Women) came to my attention when it was longlisted for the Man Booker International Prize in 2016.The blurb describes it as a novel about a women named Clarisse Rivière, who travels by train once a month to visit her mother Ladivine, a woman neither her husband, daughter or grandchildren, or anyone connected to her present life is aware of. They b [...]

    13. I can't stand the writing style in this book - so cold and alienated. The plot, not that much of it exists, is pretty unbelievable, and the characters are all cardboard - they are nothing like real people. It feels like the writer was trying too hard to come out as sophisticated and deep, while in reality she had a very thin story which she found difficult to breathe life into.

    14. "She was Malinka again the moment she got on the train, and she found it neither a pleasure nor a burden, having long since stopped noticing. But it happened, she could tell, for no more could she answer without a second thought to Clarisse when rarely, someone she knew took that same train and called to or greeted her as Clarisse, only to see her stare back in puzzled surprise, a hesitant smile on her lips, creating a mutual discomfort that the slightly flustered Clarisse never thought to dispe [...]

    15. marie ndiaye's latest work to be translated into english, ladivine, is an enigmatic and singular work of fiction—at times both bewitching and mesmerizing. ndiaye, winner of the prestigious prix goncourt, offers a multi-generational tale of psychological insight and emotional legacy. though a wearying sorrow permeates throughout, ndiaye's well-woven plot and impressively crafted characters keep the story afloat. there is much to love about ladivine, but perhaps its most outstanding quality (amo [...]

    16. This book was quite surprising. I almost didn't read it as it didn't make the short list for MBI, but I am so glad I did. Very engrossing read and I don't want to give anything away, but the magical realism took me by surprise and sucked me in completely.

    17. I will say this much, I have no idea what else I feel about this book other than that I deeply enjoyed it. I cannot explain it, in the same way I can’t explain how a Kundera book affects me either. It’s difficult to pinpoint the exact emotion you’re left with after such a read and ‘Ladivine’ presents the reader with several.The story is slightly complicated, or at least I thought it would be; given that there are several characters with the same names, all of whose lives are intermingl [...]

    18. NDiaye beautifully captures a young woman's desire to create a new identity for herself while not quite leaving her past behind, maintaining a secret relationship for decades with her mother of whom she is embarrassed. She even changes her name from Clarisse to Malinka. This story is about how secrets build impenetrable walls that cannot be torn down by even your closest family members. These walls carry on to the next generation, guaranteeing a distance among loved ones. Malika become undeciphe [...]

    19. My first attempt to read this lasted about 6 pages, before I decided I wasn't in the mood for it - but then I came back to it a week later. Wish I'd trusted my initial instincts, as this was one of those books that I hurried to get through as I wasn't really enjoying it at all. Am rather shocked it got nominated for the International Booker, since to my mind, a book in translation is only successful if you feel reading it that it WAS originally written in English. With this I was almost constant [...]

    20. A sometimes moving but ultimately too long story of three generations of women whose lives are constrained by feelings of alienation and shame, unhappy women who bring unhappiness to others and fail to connect with those close to them. I enjoyed this original and unusual family saga up to about the half way mark. The opening section of the child Malinka who rejects her mother out of shame is complex and touching. But later sections become almost surreal and the writing becomes repetitive and far [...]

    21. Update: I'm in a discussion about this novel with other goodread readers. No one seems to know what's happening at all. And during the discussion, I realized that's true: this is a senseless mess. It's as if the printer shuffled the pages. Either that, or the author just wrote any ol' thing that came to mind. I honestly did try to understand what was happening, I took lots of notes, reread certain sections, etc. But there is nothing here.

    22. I dunno if my 5-star rating will survive the night. The novel is captivating, unexpected, starts reasonably strong & then shoots off into "I bet you never thought I could do this" land. It's about every not quite true emotion you ever expressed because it was easier to be slightly false than truly true. Brava to this author. I want to read her Three Strong Women.

    23. Rising from the soul, which sways the heart of every single word. With deepest power in simple, yet driven ways. So exquisite; Drawing in the force of its viewer. What a well written piece!

    24. What a fascinating novel this was. So much of it is opaque -- the emotions and actions of the three generations of women it follows are often muted or inexplicable. But the author's taut style and the beauty of the writing was stunning.

    25. And so she said nothing.Readers of translated fiction would probably have come across Marie NDiaye through her 2009 Prix Goncourt winning work “Three Strong Women, the work also making the shortlist of the IMPAC Dublin Literary Award in 2014 (the Award won by Juan Gabriel Vásquez’s “The Sound of Things Falling – translated by Anne McLean). The English translation of her latest work Ladivine, just being released in the United Kingdom and is scheduled for release in the United States next [...]

    26. 2.5 stars, I guess.I started off liking this book quite a bit and ended up not liking it at all. The story seemed so sure of itself at the beginning but went quite off the rails in the second half.The most grating aspect of Ladivine is that certain characters are referred to throughout by their first and last names together. And when it started, it seemed as if the author were making a point, but by the end I didn't know or care what that point was. Essentially, I feel the same way about the boo [...]

    27. Did she really become a dog? While, I did read the entire novel, I wondered if maybe I shouldn't have finished it. Ladivine goes in search of what happened to her mother (that is from jacket), perhaps metaphorically, not physically.

    28. Ladivine is a strange book about strange people doing strange things (or normal people doing normal things, depending on your perspective.) In the first third of the novel, a woman called Malinka cuts her mother out of her life because of the shame her mother’s social status as a black cleaner brings her. In the second two thirds, Malinka’s adult daughter Ladivine embarks on a nightmarish vacation with her husband and children in an undisclosed tropical country in order to avoid the vague hu [...]

    29. What did I read there? I still couldn't tell you what actually happens in the book. Also the writing had an annoying circuitous, mysterious structure that didn't serve any other purpose than showing how unreliable the characters were in their perception of the world and keep you reading.No I cannot recommend this at all.

    30. This is a book that defies description, busts genres. I chose it from the Booker International Prize longlist, and am surprised it didn't make the short. Its premise is intriguing, its promise stems from the author's previous work, and its execution is masterful. Four generations of related women feature prominently, all affected by the actions of one. Clarisse is daughter to one Ladivine, mother to another. As the book opens, she has been visiting her mother monthly for years, a fact she has ke [...]

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