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مستقبل الوهم

  • Title: مستقبل الوهم
  • Author: Sigmund Freud سيغموند فرويد جورج طرابيشي
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  • Page: 466
  • Format: Paperback
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    1. الترجمة الأصح هي "مستقبل الوهم" ويعني بها فرويد الدين, وغالبا قام جورج طرابيشي بتحريفها لتلافي المشاكلوكما يقول طرابيشي في مقدمة ترجمته الممتازة, أن الكتاب جاءت عباراته طويلة جدا, وعرضه للأمور كثيرة التضاريس والتعاريج,فقد كان يخشى أن يستغل مناهضوه أرائه الفلسفية تجاه الدين, [...]

    2. تصور اشتباهی از کتاب داشتم. تصور می کردم که این کتاب مثل توتم و تابو، به تحلیل روانکاوانۀ دین می پردازه. اما در عمل، با یک کتاب ضد دینی معمولی مواجه شدم که هر کسی می تونست بنویسه، و لازم نبود کسی فروید باشه تا این مطالب رو عنوان کنه. همون طور که خیلی از این اشکال هایی که به دین وار [...]

    3. ‎دوستانِ گرانقدر، به عقیدۀ من این کتاب بهترین اثرِ زنده یاد «فروید» است‎بخش اولِ کتاب به نظرم آنچنان خوب نبود، ولی بخشِ مربوط به روانشناسی بسیار عالی بود و بخش سوم که تحلیلِ و منشأ عقایدِ مذهبی بود عالی تر از سایرِ بخش ها بود در همین بخشِ سوم «فروید» از آنیمیسم و منشأ حیوان پ [...]

    4. إننا تاركون السماءللملائكة والعصافير. فقط لو كان أقوى من ذلك!

    5. After reading this psychological criticism of religious ideology, if you are not absolutely convinced that religion is invented by unattractive men to externally coerce women and children (which gradually internalized) then you are, indeed, in significant need of religious philosophy, from which you shall have no escape for your own good and for the good of others. I have re-read it after a long time, and what a delight! Freud took considerable care to call religion as an "illusion" (not an erro [...]

    6. Freud's approach to religion is narrow and unappreciative. Being Jewish, the paradigm for him is the Hebrew Bible's god, a focus which is hardly sufficient to account for such atheistic religions as Zen or Theravada Buddhisms or for the mystical streams which can probably be found in all traditions, including the Judaic. Further, he fails to account for the more intellectual traditions such as found in the Logos theology of an Origen in the ancient world or a Kant in the modern--traditions whose [...]

    7. But surely infantilism is destined to be surmounted. Men cannot remain children for ever; they must in the end go out into 'hostile life'. We may call this 'education to reality. Need I confess to you that the whole purpose of my book is to point out the necessity for this forward step?This isn't exactly theory, but more a prose poem or maybe agitprop. Freud deftly employs a dialogue method aiming for some persuasive measure, though accepting that his words aren't likely to influence the unwilli [...]

    8. Freud, in most modern opinions, oscillates wildly between being beautifully right and spectacularly wrong. This book contains some of his most piercing insights and acerbic wit.Freud analyzes the old dinosaur of religion as he saw it, finding it to serve as a type of cure for a childlike helplessness in the world. He delves briefly into his idea of a 'father complex', but this idea is well applied here - modern theorists have built off of his ideas here to an astonishing degree.He also re-examin [...]

    9. لا بأس ان تختلف مع غيرك في الرأي و ان كان رأيه يشكل لك كارثة و صدمة ، و هنا فرويد ليس بالشخص الذي يُستهان به ، و لنفترض انه رأيهُ له اهمية و به جانب من الصحة ،، السؤال الذي طالما حيرنّي و انا اقرأ لمثل هؤلاء العلماء و ارائهم الدينية و الفلسفية " هل يتوجب على كل من وصل الى مراحل علم [...]

    10. كتاب لطيف ينتهي في يوم ، يحاول فيه فرويد التعرض لما سماه بالوهم الديني ، ويأمُل بمستقبل خلوٍ منه ،وهنا نبدأ مجددا قصة الطوبيا او المدينة الفاضلة التي كان افلاطون اول من خط كتابا فيها ، وتلاه من بعده من تلاه من فلاسفة الا ان فرويد يعترف بضعف حججه ، وهذه نقطة ايجابية لديه ، ويعت [...]

    11. مستقبل وهمالمستقبل الذي يريده فرويد هو نهاية الوهم الديني من التاريخ البشريفالمذاهب الدينية اوهام والدين بتعريف فرويد عصاب مرضي وقهريوهو نتيجة لعقدة تطورت مع الطفل من طفولته (عقدة اوديب) نتيجة لعجز الانسان امام العالم وصراعه مع الحضاره ومع الطبيعة فالانسان بحاجة الى اله م [...]

    12. Illusions, as referred to here, are nothing more that a person's inability to accept reality. Religion is one such illusion, but a necessary one in a time when science and it's understanding by the everyday man is at such a low point.

    13. interesting perspective on the illusion of religion from the king and creator of psycho-analysis. this is an extremely short read, and one that i will have to re-read again to get a firmer understanding of his analysis.his scientific tactic of breaking down the creation and dissemination of religious ideas over centuries, using psycho-analysis, is quite fascinating and frankly, hard to rationally argue. it really only leaves ones' 'faith' to believe in the absurdities of religious doctrine, or a [...]

    14. Freud was an accidental a genius, a man who parroted back theories that were already in development in his time and social circle -- the main difference with Freud's take was that it stuck. Sadly, this book follows the trajectory of far too many Freud works, in that it is principally a "dialog" between Freud and a laughably credulous strawman. For a more interesting and insightful look into the same subject, I recommend comparing his "Moses and Monotheism" (which is unintentionally hilarious!) a [...]

    15. يأخذ ذلك الكتاب طابع المبحث أكثر من كونه مؤلف !!ويعتمد على مبدأ محاورة ونقاش عدة اعتراضات مقدمه لفكر فرويد العلماني , مستقبل وهم في سيكولوجية المعتقدات الدينية لدى المتدين مقابل الحضارة , حين يقول فرويد التوهم –أو توهمات ,يقصد أن ليس التوهم والخطأ شيئاً واحداً كما أن التوهم [...]

    16. [Review in English at the bottom]إنتقادات فرويد للدين كما هو مفهوم وممارَس حاليا تبدو منطقية ومفهومة. وقد استكمل مناقشة هذا الموضوع في كتابه التالي "الحضارة ومشكلاتها" [أو "قلق في الحضارة" في ترجمة أخرى] حيث علق على إعتراضات بعض القراء على أفكاره التي عرضها في هذا الكتاب. وفي نهاية الكتاب ال [...]

    17. I believe this is my favorite thing of Freud’s I’ve come across. In some ways, it is like a prelude to Civilizations and its Discontents, dealing with the pull between individual desires and the function of the civilization at large. What a contrast his thinking is to Durkheim’s! In culture, Durkheim sees everything that pulls the individual above his biological limitations and makes him a more perfect being. For Freud, culture is a repressive mechanism that dooms most men to unfulfilled d [...]

    18. این کتاب یکی از بهترین کتاب هایی است که در تمام زندگی ام خوانده ام و سهم بسیار بزرگی در مسیر فکری من داشته است. این کتاب را در سال 87 خواندم و پس از این کتاب بود که تصمیم گرفتم به دور از تعصبات در باورهایم بازنگری کنم و آنها دوباره بسنجم. چیزی شبیه به آنچه که دکارت در تعملات انجام د [...]

    19. Freud really loses me when his books get into more speculative social criticism, but this one was especially thin. Before I got to it, the editions of Freud's earlier works assured me that "The Future of an Illusion" would contain Freud's devastating arguments against religion, but where are the arguments? He writes in this book as if the arguments have already been made, and here he is only elaborating on some of the secondary questions that arise now that religion has been intellectually debun [...]

    20. آینده یک پندار‏ یکی از کتاب‌های زیگموند فروید درباره‌ی دین است. وی این کتاب را در سال ۱۹۲۷ نوشت. در این کتاب زیگموند فروید تفسیر خویش از منشاء پیدایش، توسعه، روانکاوی و آینده دین‌ها را بیان می‌کند. فروید به دین چون یک سیستم از باورهای نادرست نگاه می‌کند.از دیدگاه فروید، دین [...]

    21. أعجبني لأنها قليلة تلك الكتب التي تجعلك تتسائل: لماذا لم نفكر في هذا الامر بهذا الشكل من قبلوأكثر ما أعجبني هو أسلوب فرويد على الإقناع، فهو يعرض نقاطه العامة ويتحدث فيها، ثم فجأة يتقمص في غمضة عين شخصيات منتقديه جميعًا، فيزيح الحمل عن كاحلهم ويتولى هو بنفسه عرض إنتقادتهم - ال [...]

    22. Freud gets a lot of crap nowadays for the obsession with Oedipal type thoughts but he remains a good read. This is a short little book on religious illusions that was pretty thoughtful and optimistic. I liked it, but if I'm delusional in thinking it was good, I will accept the counter arguments and hopefully be less neurotic afterwards.

    23. برگردان از: هاشم رضیفروید مسئله ایمان به خدا را، تثبیتی از یک آرزوی حفاظت و حمایت از سوی وجودی پدرگونه میداند

    24. Can't help but think of Nietzsche after reading this in respect to Freud and Jung splitting. Freud was a great mind but there's something monumental missing from his internal dialogue: "Two friends. They were friends but have ceased to be, and they both severed their friendship at the same time: the one because he thought himself too much misunderstood, the other because he thought himself understood too well and both were deceiving themselves! for neither understood himself well enough."- Nietz [...]

    25. حسناً،حسناًإنه كتاب ماتع فعلا،يسرد فيه فرويد أفكاره عن طريق مرافعة جميلة ومقنعة جداااولو سايرناه مخلفين وراءنا ظهريا،كل أفكارنا الموروثة،وتقاليدنا المعتادة،لوقعنا في حب كتابه حبا جما ،ولتخلينا جملة وتفصيلاعن مرض عصاب الطفل،ولكن نفسي آبت إلا أن ترفض الاقتناعليس لأنني خا [...]

    26. I wouldn't say I completely enjoyed the book, but it was insightful and engrossing. Really, I had thrust myself into completing it since I picked but after Baggini's Very Short Introduction to Atheism. It was my first Freud book and I admit I am quite ill equipped to fully elaborate on what I understood. But it is in fact a long essay on psycho analytic reasons for non-existence of god. I found it quite interesting and well written. He is occasionally amusing too but I didnt find him tying his a [...]

    27. Perhaps relevant in his times, but utter BS today. Our life is, essentially, a dream. If you are pessimistic enough to call any religion a collective illusion or neurosis, then you should have the courage and intellectual honesty to call your entire life, religious or non religious, an illusion and a neurosis. One more intellectual to load on the "Ooops, I missed the point" wagon. On to the next one! Oh, nice to meet you, prof. Dawkinsp.s. There are countless very intelligent people who entitely [...]

    28. "Religion is the illusion. " Very interesting read. Pinnacle of the modern Mind. Don't worry, if you think religion is the illusion, you got the idea from Freud. If you don't think it is an illusion, his argument will seem like the original illusion.

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